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Should U.S., Canada & Mexico create an energy 'axis of influence'?

GasBuddy Blog -- To say that the U.S. is taking definitive steps toward energy autonomy is not hyperbole any more.

The U.S. Energy Information Administration projected earlier this year that the “U.S. dependence on imported petroleum liquids declines primarily as a result of growth in domestic oil production by more than 1 million barrels per day by 2020; an increase in biofuels use to more than 1 million barrels per day crude oil equivalent by 2024; and modest growth in transportation sector demand through 2035. Net petroleum imports as a share of total U.S. liquid fuels consumed drop from 49 percent in 2010 to 36 percent in 2035.” EIA goes on to say that proposed fuel economy standards covering vehicle model years 2017 through 2025 would further...

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Submitted Dec 19, 2012 By: PD

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traffic cop Champion Author Boston Posts:1,254 Points:538,965 Joined:Oct 2004	Message Posted: Jan 1, 2013 7:29:54 PM Ignore traffic cop Report Abuse We'll trade Mexico for their oil and our illegal immigrants. Or are they called "pre-citizens" now?
joanne_abrahams Rookie Author New York Posts:73 Points:7,565 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Dec 31, 2012 8:31:32 AM Ignore joanne_abrahams Report Abuse yes
garywa01 Sophomore Author Alberta Posts:130 Points:382,165 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Dec 31, 2012 7:01:16 AM Ignore garywa01 Report Abuse sure
mst150 Champion Author Detroit Posts:1,265 Points:161,865 Joined:Dec 2012	Message Posted: Dec 22, 2012 10:49:09 AM Ignore mst150 Report Abuse It would be nice if gas prices were stable for a while.
52MPG Champion Author Dayton Posts:7,277 Points:1,744,630 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Dec 21, 2012 12:34:25 AM Ignore 52MPG Report Abuse More future date guess work.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,650 Points:1,612,445 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 9:06:21 PM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse lots of slogans and hot air. No real good comes from that.
Ticobird Champion Author Huntsville Posts:3,246 Points:1,118,940 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 3:27:31 PM Ignore Ticobird Report Abuse It's a little naive to think Countries can form an "axis of influence" when it's already been accomplished by big oil and the special interest dollars influencing the legislation regulating those same businesses.
CostEngineer Veteran Author Sacramento Posts:255 Points:144,455 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 11:34:51 AM Ignore CostEngineer Report Abuse Sounds good, but will it be reality?
rbrowdersr Champion Author Detroit Posts:5,730 Points:1,820,915 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 10:55:38 AM Ignore rbrowdersr Report Abuse No problem for me.
snappytom2 Champion Author Corpus Christi Posts:3,561 Points:275,245 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 10:53:33 AM Ignore snappytom2 Report Abuse Why?
cricket48750 All-Star Author Michigan Posts:802 Points:415,080 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 10:01:31 AM Ignore cricket48750 Report Abuse We need to work away from fossil fuels.
flyfast Champion Author Kansas City Posts:9,263 Points:1,828,585 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 9:38:01 AM Ignore flyfast Report Abuse only if we are running it
99church Champion Author Indiana Posts:1,836 Points:364,965 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 9:31:27 AM Ignore 99church Report Abuse Don't think so
rick_evans Champion Author Boston Posts:3,734 Points:1,035,660 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 9:23:17 AM Ignore rick_evans Report Abuse You can "influence" prices up or down.
gws2980 Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:2,196 Points:504,040 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 9:18:14 AM Ignore gws2980 Report Abuse Keep as much here as possible for future generations
NorthglennBill Champion Author Denver Posts:7,437 Points:1,474,870 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 9:16:02 AM Ignore NorthglennBill Report Abuse Just get the price of gasoline down and keep it there.
WebGabe Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:2,384 Points:499,545 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 9:03:50 AM Ignore WebGabe Report Abuse Works for me. Better here than OPEC.
bigmace111 Champion Author Albany Posts:2,733 Points:616,550 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 9:02:48 AM Ignore bigmace111 Report Abuse Should the US attempt to get Canada and Mexico to hoard gas and oil at the expense of the world? There should be free trade for all countries. We should only be worried about our own resources, not other countries.
CPGas1815 Champion Author Michigan Posts:6,027 Points:1,099,605 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 9:01:05 AM Ignore CPGas1815 Report Abuse The last thing we need is a axis of "influence"
Snowchoux Champion Author Missouri Posts:1,003 Points:145,635 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 8:58:48 AM Ignore Snowchoux Report Abuse Could be good, but this is just a projection.
jadeusa Champion Author Dallas Posts:9,349 Points:1,826,940 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 8:58:45 AM Ignore jadeusa Report Abuse Keep the oil and gas in North America. The North American Energy Alliance or aka "NA Energy Allies".
PurduePete86 Champion Author Indiana Posts:2,164 Points:1,155,770 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 8:58:08 AM Ignore PurduePete86 Report Abuse muawhaha
BAJALRRP Veteran Author Tacoma Posts:451 Points:1,266,135 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 8:58:06 AM Ignore BAJALRRP Report Abuse Why not. Let's be leaders rather than followers....
lightbulbman2008 Champion Author Worcester Posts:415,505 Points:1,590,560 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 8:57:53 AM Ignore lightbulbman2008 Report Abuse greed and speculators!!!!
AC-302 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:26,597 Points:2,904,045 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 8:57:46 AM Ignore AC-302 Report Abuse OPEC had the cartel for years. So why shouldn't we also use energy demand to influence policies to those nations who are friendly to us?
sciotosix Champion Author Dayton Posts:2,764 Points:669,050 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 8:57:05 AM Ignore sciotosix Report Abuse Maybe...but drop 'axis'!
albert2008 Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:7,367 Points:1,483,935 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 8:56:52 AM Ignore albert2008 Report Abuse maybe time will tell
thirty8paces Champion Author Baltimore Posts:4,531 Points:1,109,055 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 8:56:09 AM Ignore thirty8paces Report Abuse Why not? Keep here what's here.
CivicMA Champion Author Boston Posts:1,907 Points:538,020 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 8:55:03 AM Ignore CivicMA Report Abuse Yes, working together would be smart. Use "alliance" instead of "axis" however!
NanookAK Champion Author Anchorage Posts:7,271 Points:1,443,940 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 8:54:49 AM Ignore NanookAK Report Abuse Oil companies will do whatever they can to keep prices high.
Hemi3tc Veteran Author Vancouver Posts:284 Points:286,280 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 8:53:01 AM Ignore Hemi3tc Report Abuse Price fixing is officially is not allowed for western countries or companies. Intel, Hitachi, Msft and lots of other companies always get fined for price fixing.
DarthDadJr Champion Author Virginia Posts:7,322 Points:1,523,370 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 8:52:36 AM Ignore DarthDadJr Report Abuse This sounds like an interesting idea...a North American OPEC...this would be good for Mexico, where Pemex needs help boosting its output.
SUV2009 Champion Author Orlando Posts:4,423 Points:1,145,915 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 8:51:56 AM Ignore SUV2009 Report Abuse Ok
Minutefan Champion Author Springfield Posts:3,321 Points:1,248,255 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 8:51:53 AM Ignore Minutefan Report Abuse if it helps to shift power away from opec...go for it. The opec coutiures aren't exactly beacons of demcoracy or human rights.
preacherjohn Champion Author Modesto Posts:3,998 Points:1,921,670 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 8:49:43 AM Ignore preacherjohn Report Abuse Old News
ExplodingGlass Champion Author Maine Posts:1,365 Points:768,470 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 8:49:06 AM Ignore ExplodingGlass Report Abuse the axis league!
rasprout Champion Author Tacoma Posts:3,367 Points:1,223,410 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 8:48:21 AM Ignore rasprout Report Abuse Don't really appreciate the name Axis of influence... BUT the US, Canada and Mexico should work together and give back to OPEC in our own pricing scheme outside our sphere of influence...
nskmda Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:1,295 Points:788,505 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 8:47:04 AM Ignore nskmda Report Abuse if it can help lower energy prices locally...
sehonda Champion Author Honolulu Posts:2,048 Points:917,960 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 8:46:31 AM Ignore sehonda Report Abuse whoever has the money will get the energy...
2granny Champion Author Michigan Posts:9,590 Points:1,469,180 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 8:45:20 AM Ignore 2granny Report Abuse Just speculation.
MrLuigi Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:4,788 Points:969,610 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 8:44:38 AM Ignore MrLuigi Report Abuse sounds interesting
hwmillerster Champion Author Missouri Posts:6,804 Points:1,467,520 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 8:44:36 AM Ignore hwmillerster Report Abuse An alternative to OPEC would be a good idea.
Insuremn Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:4,967 Points:1,033,635 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 8:43:55 AM Ignore Insuremn Report Abuse No, they should not. The US is a sovereign nation.
LoadToad Champion Author San Diego Posts:1,364 Points:1,298,045 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 8:43:30 AM Ignore LoadToad Report Abuse Interesting
Jmac2008 Champion Author Missouri Posts:2,289 Points:884,065 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 8:43:24 AM Ignore Jmac2008 Report Abuse old news, but I vote no.
masker5900 Veteran Author Mobile Posts:363 Points:161,565 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 8:42:41 AM Ignore masker5900 Report Abuse All speculation
Gassed01 Champion Author Toronto Posts:6,369 Points:1,805,715 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 8:42:25 AM Ignore Gassed01 Report Abuse To compete with OPEC? How do we stack up?
LocalSpyGuy Champion Author Tampa Posts:7,815 Points:1,588,100 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 8:42:13 AM Ignore LocalSpyGuy Report Abuse It appears that North America has the greatest oil reserves on the planet.
MRHONEST Champion Author Illinois Posts:2,212 Points:1,677,180 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 8:40:47 AM Ignore MRHONEST Report Abuse MAYBE
mrreferee Champion Author Savannah Posts:1,346 Points:559,580 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 8:40:28 AM Ignore mrreferee Report Abuse a mistake or clAIM A 'mis-calulation" . This is why we need to develop more CNG and hydrogen vehichles...