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Fuel-cell vehicles in future for Honda

The Columbus Dispatch -- Honda plans to introduce a fuel-cell electric vehicle that would go on sale in the United States in 2015.

Takanobu Ito, Honda’s president and CEO, announced the move in a wide-ranging speech in Japan yesterday in which he set sales goals for the company for the next five years.

“This new fuel-cell vehicle will showcase further technological advancement and significant cost reduction that Honda has accomplished,” he said, according to a transcript.

Honda has two assembly plants and a research and development office in central Ohio. Ito did not say where the fuel-cell vehicle would be developed or how many would be produced. However, the company tends to do its initial work on new technologies close to its Tokyo headquarters.

Ito said Honda considers fuel-cell electric vehicles to be the

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NemoIL Champion Author Illinois Posts:3,159 Points:1,339,905 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 12:35:27 PM Ignore NemoIL Report Abuse It will probably be prohibitively expensive.
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AlienBug All-Star Author Connecticut Posts:732 Points:218,035 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Sep 24, 2012 6:48:26 AM Ignore AlienBug Report Abuse Whatever happened to the Clarity?
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tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:33,578 Points:2,372,235 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Sep 24, 2012 12:48:27 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse Honda FCX fuel cell vehicle for sale in the US in 2015. A fuel cell converts natural gas or hydrogen into electricity and releasing water vapor as an exhaust. The Honda FCX is three times as fuel-efficient as a gasoline-powered vehicle and twice as efficient as a gasoline-electric hybrid. Fuel cells are better than a battery that can wear out and will eventually have to be replaced and fuel cells do require maintenance sometime! Hydrogen is very expensive to make, usually from oil or natural gas. Find a way to make hydrogen fuel cheaper. Find a way to make vehicles use more than one fuel so you can use the cheapest fuel at the time. Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, has a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012!
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carlsonguitars Champion Author Portland Posts:4,876 Points:825,980 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Sep 23, 2012 9:41:42 PM Ignore carlsonguitars Report Abuse Cool beans! But then again, there have been tons of prototypes from nearly all automakers, and nothing has actually hit the market... I guess I should move to iceland...
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judgemobile Champion Author Ohio Posts:7,700 Points:2,471,660 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Sep 23, 2012 9:11:45 PM Ignore judgemobile Report Abuse they should test market them first to see if the public will buy. Remember NEW COKE ??
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Number43 Champion Author Lexington Posts:8,844 Points:1,664,895 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Sep 23, 2012 9:07:07 PM Ignore Number43 Report Abuse will probably be too expensive to buy and the hydrogen will be hard to store. Keep the taxpayer out of this disaster.
jrsva Champion Author Virginia Posts:9,994 Points:1,639,725 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Sep 23, 2012 9:06:20 PM Ignore jrsva Report Abuse They do not say in this article what the fuel would be but their FCX Clarity custom car runs on hydrogen. Presumably it would be that or, possibly, natural gas.
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NemoIL Champion Author Illinois Posts:3,159 Points:1,339,905 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Sep 23, 2012 9:04:45 PM Ignore NemoIL Report Abuse Their fuel cell car will probably use hydrogen, which takes more energy make than it will ever save.
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Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,985 Points:439,840 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Sep 23, 2012 9:01:28 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse Thanks for the post, @HumbleHarv. I do have questions about refueling the FCX Clarity. What is the range on a full tank and how much does it cost to fill up? Also, how long to fill up since you are pressurizing the fuel tank?
carloco75 Champion Author Richmond Posts:3,846 Points:626,805 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Sep 23, 2012 8:57:19 PM Ignore carloco75 Report Abuse Interesting...
bullseye100 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:2,526 Points:609,055 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Sep 23, 2012 8:55:17 PM Ignore bullseye100 Report Abuse I would expect something like this from Honda of even from Toyota. Both are awesome companies with the best cars on the market.
bobdec Champion Author Miami Posts:9,099 Points:1,796,545 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Sep 23, 2012 8:55:12 PM Ignore bobdec Report Abuse Good only if affordable
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,985 Points:439,840 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Sep 23, 2012 8:53:45 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse Unfortunately, @milespergallon, hydrogen is still a very expensive fuel to produce, since it doesn't exist by itself in nature. Right now, the most economical way to produce hydrogen is to process it from natural gas in a method called steam reforming. That costs the equivalent of around $10/gal. If you wanted to produce hydrogen through electrolysis, that would cost around $20/gal.
repeater1 Champion Author Topeka Posts:8,437 Points:2,392,525 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Sep 23, 2012 8:51:59 PM Ignore repeater1 Report Abuse Interesting.
dld1295 Sophomore Author Detroit Posts:211 Points:359,820 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Sep 23, 2012 8:51:54 PM Ignore dld1295 Report Abuse We will see how this works out
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,985 Points:439,840 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Sep 23, 2012 8:50:15 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse Actually, @CC55, Honda's FCX clarity is a hybrid, it just has a fuel cell to supply electricity instead of an internal combustion engine to spin a generator.
milespergallon Champion Author Illinois Posts:9,880 Points:1,935,835 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Sep 23, 2012 8:49:49 PM Ignore milespergallon Report Abuse To bad they can not support the future in reality and produce HYDROGEN Alternative Fuel Cell Vehicels
carinthuist Champion Author San Francisco Posts:2,368 Points:354,190 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Sep 23, 2012 8:49:21 PM Ignore carinthuist Report Abuse great
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,985 Points:439,840 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Sep 23, 2012 8:48:44 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse I'm not sure if I follow you, @CarefreeVT. A fuel cell isn't a battery and the battery packs on hybrid cars are warranteed for at least 10 years or 100,000 miles. I wish Honda lots of luck. However, I am afraid that fuel cell vehicles might not be ready for prime time, yet. They're still enormously expensive to produce and there are very few places to fuel them.
aggietim Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:1,826 Points:716,225 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Sep 23, 2012 8:48:24 PM Ignore aggietim Report Abuse .
CC55 Champion Author Georgia Posts:1,323 Points:1,409,895 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Sep 23, 2012 8:47:40 PM Ignore CC55 Report Abuse How about a fuel cell hybrid, Toyota is most likley working on it.
blazerbob91 Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:6,279 Points:1,910,020 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Sep 23, 2012 8:47:13 PM Ignore blazerbob91 Report Abuse Someday they will be affordable
HumbleHarv Rookie Author Los Angeles Posts:85 Points:1,026,800 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Sep 23, 2012 8:47:05 PM Ignore HumbleHarv Report Abuse As I read some of the comments, I see so many misunderstandings and lack of knowledge of the facts. Honda has making fuel cell vehicles for many years. Their latest, the FCX Clarity is a very nice looking car. Range - the Hyundai or the Kia fuel cell vehicle has gone over 500 miles on one tank. The GM fuel cell vehicle has enough power to do burn-outs. How much more power do you want. The land speed record for a fuel cell vehicle is 302.5 mph. Same vehicle using a battery electric system did go 307.5. Chalk the difference up to the weather. You can put a hydrogen fuel cell system in any vehicle - even a Corvette. By the way, if all the vehicles in the USA were magically changed to hydrogen fuel cells, we already produce enough hydrogen on a daily basis to fuel them all. No more drilling for oil or natural gas in environmentally sensitive areas - all you need is water and electric power from renewable sources. Of course, I drive a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle - it is great.
gassy4u Champion Author Mobile Posts:3,763 Points:1,326,360 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Sep 23, 2012 8:46:53 PM Ignore gassy4u Report Abuse Too soon.
Focus2 Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,910 Points:1,927,600 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Sep 23, 2012 8:46:06 PM Ignore Focus2 Report Abuse That's still an electric car and it could be priced out of reach to the average consumer. Even $500 a month for a lease is very steep!
CarefreeVT Champion Author Burlington Posts:1,896 Points:281,155 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Sep 23, 2012 8:45:12 PM Ignore CarefreeVT Report Abuse Now if we only didn't have to change the battery every 5 years & throw the old one away...
bonzoonfmb Champion Author Florida Posts:1,817 Points:664,160 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Sep 23, 2012 8:44:27 PM Ignore bonzoonfmb Report Abuse It is going to be expensive but someone has to be the first.