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McDonnell wants to scrap gas tax, boost sales tax for roads

Richmond Times Dispatch -- On the eve of the 2013 General Assembly session, Gov. Bob McDonnell is proposing increasing the state’s sales tax and eliminating the gas tax in an overhaul of the way the state funds its transportation needs.

He wants to hike the state and local sales tax to 5.8 percent from 5 percent and permanently shift the revenue source for transportation to a tax that is rising from one that is increasingly in decline.

If lawmakers approve the plan, Virginia would be the first state in the country without a gas tax, according to the administration.

The multi-component plan would also increase the motor vehicle registration fees by $15, add a $100 fee for alternative fuel vehicles and capture more Internet sales taxes, pending Congressional action. In addition, McDonnell wants to increase the port

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Submitted Jan 09, 2013 By: bar1035

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gobux10 Champion Author Ohio Posts:3,159 Points:677,035 Joined:Mar 2010	Message Posted: Jan 10, 2013 9:21:06 AM Ignore gobux10 Report Abuse Somebody will pay
DanMtz Champion Author Oakland Posts:3,340 Points:1,240,400 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Jan 10, 2013 6:57:40 AM Ignore DanMtz Report Abuse Here's an idea - how about taxing the people using the roads to pay for maintenance of the roads.
JuicyQ69 All-Star Author San Bernardino Posts:639 Points:1,136,835 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 10:50:58 PM Ignore JuicyQ69 Report Abuse Robbing Peter to pay Paul.
NemoIL Champion Author Illinois Posts:3,005 Points:1,309,220 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 9:22:49 PM Ignore NemoIL Report Abuse How about we tax all those grossly overweight Mexican semi-trucks that are driving across our borders and are damaging our roads and not being made to pay for it?
Zonk Champion Author Michigan Posts:6,466 Points:2,099,090 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 9:17:01 PM Ignore Zonk Report Abuse Old article. I like the idea.
rahcat Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:2,453 Points:660,025 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 9:09:27 PM Ignore rahcat Report Abuse Don't you want to be kissed when you are getting screwed?
us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:5,976 Points:1,109,385 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 9:08:57 PM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse He want to hike state tax .8 precent for roads but only .5 is for transportation, so the .3 is pork??? So they add $100 fee on alt. car because they pay less gas tax... But if you scrap gas tax no car will pay, so why keep the $100 for Alt. cars??? "The plan includes about $300 million for the Dulles Metrorail Extension Project and more for expanded passenger rail service in the state." They should just vote, if they want the rail???
mcmonsta Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,212 Points:815,520 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 9:08:23 PM Ignore mcmonsta Report Abuse not much talk about increasing gov't productivity or efficiency...is there?
obimerrill Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:1,425 Points:286,790 Joined:Jul 2012	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 9:08:20 PM Ignore obimerrill Report Abuse New revenue streams...politicians can't get enough of our money!
Harry813 Champion Author Iowa Posts:2,990 Points:658,940 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 9:07:30 PM Ignore Harry813 Report Abuse Taxed on tax on tax
boatfloyd Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:1,703 Points:385,050 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 9:06:42 PM Ignore boatfloyd Report Abuse Taxes are their income.
hyeglenn Champion Author Fresno Posts:1,060 Points:596,980 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 9:06:08 PM Ignore hyeglenn Report Abuse At least they are trying something different.
cheaper0ON All-Star Author Ontario Posts:968 Points:395,130 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 9:04:21 PM Ignore cheaper0ON Report Abuse Okay.
PrinceLH Champion Author Ontario Posts:2,677 Points:535,120 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 9:04:08 PM Ignore PrinceLH Report Abuse Ridiculous!
jrsva Champion Author Virginia Posts:9,835 Points:1,610,075 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 9:03:28 PM Ignore jrsva Report Abuse “The minute any state government lowers its gas tax, Big Oil just raises the price by the same amount.” C’mon Rob, that’s BS and I’m sure you know it. “Just a ploy to get votes, not economically feasible.” McDonnell cannot run for reelection so it has nothing to do with votes, besides which, why would increasing the sales tax be so popular? Why not economically feasible? It sounds like a solid plan to me.
blazerbob91 Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:6,125 Points:1,880,220 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 8:59:08 PM Ignore blazerbob91 Report Abuse Then more can be diverted to other expenses. In Wi the former gov just stole from the transportation fund. [Edited by: blazerbob91 at 1/10/2013 12:00:30 AM EST]
jwalkerh Champion Author Louisiana Posts:6,127 Points:1,368,545 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 8:58:14 PM Ignore jwalkerh Report Abuse Whatever works best...
VikingWoman Champion Author Washington Posts:1,246 Points:248,640 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 8:58:13 PM Ignore VikingWoman Report Abuse It makes little difference. The price at the pump will go down a little but citizens of Virgina will get squeezed elsewhere. It all evens out. And, as far as taxes go, every possible tax is included in every product and service we buy anyway because of the cost of doing business. Don't think about this too much or you will get angry about paying Pennsylvania taxes for that Hershey bar you just ate.
jrsva Champion Author Virginia Posts:9,835 Points:1,610,075 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 8:58:06 PM Ignore jrsva Report Abuse Basically the same story was posted several days ago but this time some of the details are different — the per/gallon tax retained on diesel, for example. The proposed 5.8% sales tax would raise exactly the same amount of money as the 17.5¢/gallon tax when gas is $3.017/gallon. Since it is more than that in most areas of the state now, it would result in a small increase in gas prices. It would raise more tax money as the price of gas rises, which is probably the main impetus behind the proposal.
dllexport Rookie Author Toronto Posts:50 Points:42,705 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 8:57:01 PM Ignore dllexport Report Abuse Just a ploy to get votes, not economically feasible.
boatmen Champion Author New York Posts:3,070 Points:620,630 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 8:55:38 PM Ignore boatmen Report Abuse sure he does till he reinstates gas tax for more revenue
RNCII Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,473 Points:640,325 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 8:54:33 PM Ignore RNCII Report Abuse Why not make everybody pay to keep up the roads. We tax everybody who owns property to pay for schools. At least this way the drivers of EVs will have to pay for the roads too. Woulds you rather have big brother keep track of how many miles you drive and charge you by the mile? Everybody benefits from the roads so have everybody pay for them. [Edited by: RNCII at 1/10/2013 12:01:24 AM EST]
Steve6921 Sophomore Author New Hampshire Posts:104 Points:156,980 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 8:54:21 PM Ignore Steve6921 Report Abuse Great idea
TA33 Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:1,487 Points:319,540 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 8:51:23 PM Ignore TA33 Report Abuse Good idea, but can it be passed and implemented?
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,776 Points:410,615 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 8:50:50 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse The minute any state government lowers its gas tax, Big Oil just raises the price by the same amount.
ricebike Champion Author New Jersey Posts:10,016 Points:1,852,940 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 8:47:26 PM Ignore ricebike Report Abuse meh
skybiker Champion Author South Carolina Posts:7,277 Points:1,556,390 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 8:45:14 PM Ignore skybiker Report Abuse Sc has the tax disease...
melvindale Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,438 Points:351,230 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 8:44:00 PM Ignore melvindale Report Abuse Why not gas tax based as a percent of price instead of a set number of pennies per gallon? That is why we can't keep up on road maintenance.
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gasmack Champion Author Ventura Posts:1,696 Points:664,620 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 8:41:53 PM Ignore gasmack Report Abuse Plan might work if the Gov. can get it approved.
UpSol7 Champion Author Augusta Posts:1,638 Points:755,950 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 8:39:32 PM Ignore UpSol7 Report Abuse but would VA gas prices decline?
troutbum7 Veteran Author Nevada Posts:306 Points:154,665 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 8:38:42 PM Ignore troutbum7 Report Abuse What tree did this nut fall out of?
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skeeterbait Veteran Author Knoxville Posts:345 Points:247,400 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 8:35:57 PM Ignore skeeterbait Report Abuse The governor of Virginia must be crazy. That will help the economy, NOT! People who don't drive but they do buy groceries would be getting punished. That is a good way to help the low income people, NOT!
CiVX Champion Author Oakland Posts:7,050 Points:1,357,110 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 8:35:54 PM Ignore CiVX Report Abuse Why make people who don't drive pay?
wild3bill Champion Author New York Posts:2,546 Points:1,685,865 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 8:33:09 PM Ignore wild3bill Report Abuse Makes more sence. Replace per gallon road tax with % of price sales tax when prices are in a lower price, revenue will automatically increase when thec Big Oil Monopoly jacksw up prices, revenue will increase!
paulydel Champion Author Delaware Posts:8,774 Points:847,125 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 8:32:46 PM Ignore paulydel Report Abuse This was discussed about a week ago.
sickhp Champion Author San Antonio Posts:1,359 Points:513,880 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 8:31:49 PM Ignore sickhp Report Abuse ok
s6sputnik Champion Author Austin Posts:6,209 Points:1,305,145 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 8:30:56 PM Ignore s6sputnik Report Abuse Interesting!
thomas41546 Champion Author Tennessee Posts:3,742 Points:2,254,685 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 8:28:55 PM Ignore thomas41546 Report Abuse must be nearing election time again
OGW Champion Author London Posts:5,324 Points:1,529,650 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 8:26:21 PM Ignore OGW Report Abuse Even a bigger money grab thsn just the gas tax. Politicians think the public is stupid! There is only one pocket for all the money to come from and taxpayers are broke or close to broke!
JENNYHK Champion Author Chicago Posts:3,626 Points:710,620 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 8:25:25 PM Ignore JENNYHK Report Abuse McDonald is a goof.
veemotors All-Star Author Alberta Posts:697 Points:65,870 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 8:25:14 PM Ignore veemotors Report Abuse youll end up with both
30mpg80 Champion Author Lexington Posts:9,998 Points:1,484,930 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 8:21:55 PM Ignore 30mpg80 Report Abuse Don't trust, get all the facts
SUSANCK Champion Author Chicago Posts:3,627 Points:706,280 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 8:21:50 PM Ignore SUSANCK Report Abuse This guy is a looser.
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Dragnet Champion Author Arizona Posts:15,390 Points:2,905,735 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 8:17:17 PM Ignore Dragnet Report Abuse Some brain dead politician always has some way to screw over the public and they think that politicians have a real brain? Turtles have more common intelligence than a politician
Buddy2264 Champion Author Tampa Posts:11,639 Points:2,357,045 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 8:16:18 PM Ignore Buddy2264 Report Abuse A move in the right direction, but I wonder how .8 of sales tax replace 17.5 cents in fuel tax. But be a lot of sales. I think we will see more of this with alternative fuels and better MPG. I think we will also see this as as a use tax on a national basis in time, and why not. Reduce income tax and increase sales tax so all get to pay some. Start out with a low % national sales tax and reduce regular taxes. But spending and debit has to be cut WAY back and we are not going to like that one.
clpassenubye Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:3,359 Points:750,755 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 8:15:36 PM Ignore clpassenubye Report Abuse NO I don't think this is a good idea leave it separate