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Valero seeking to sell California refineries-report

Reuters -- Valero spokesman Bill Day declined comment on the issue. However, he noted that Valero Chief Executive Bill Klesse told analysts nearly a year ago that the company was considering options for the two plants in light of a 2006 California law that requires emissions to match 1990 levels by 2020, which could cost hundreds of millions of dollars in upgrades to achieve.

During Valero's third-quarter 2011 conference call, an analyst asked if long-term viability of Valero's California refineries could be in question given the looming regulations.

"We're looking at our options," Klesse replied.

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Submitted Oct 20, 2012 By: NOTSOGRN

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,818 Points:1,636,245 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 2:43:08 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse gonna see more of this as Pig Oil reaps record profits and no maintenance is being done.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,818 Points:1,636,245 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Oct 23, 2012 3:07:18 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse that's what happens when you don't put money into upkeep.
nsdp Champion Author San Antonio Posts:1,117 Points:47,990 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 1:58:25 PM Ignore nsdp Report Abuse Obviously you people know nothing about Valero's balance sheet or you would know they couldn't afford to sell them in today's market since they would be heavily penalized for not having done anything other than waste a bunch of money on Prop 23 to try to solve the problem. Sitting there doing nothing for 6 years has come home to roost. Closing them would cost 4 or 5 times as much because of the cleanup required. Management made a bad bet and now has to pay for it. Exxon Shell and Chevron had no problem getting ready. Tesoro is in a bind as well.
EconomiserAZ All-Star Author Tucson Posts:836 Points:158,890 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 10:33:21 AM Ignore EconomiserAZ Report Abuse I felt compelled to go to press on this one. But contributor 'bshort' just nailed it. Well done, mate!. You know for the longest time I have been going to buy myself a nice gift. Something refined. Maybe and oil well?
bsnort Veteran Author Huntsville Posts:465 Points:250,700 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 9:30:45 AM Ignore bsnort Report Abuse You wonder why people/businesses pack up and leave the left coast. Only ones moving in are the freeloaders/illegal immigrants. What is cali gonna do when it runs out of other people's money?
daequitz Champion Author New Jersey Posts:6,437 Points:1,409,080 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 3:43:52 AM Ignore daequitz Report Abuse I'll buy it. How much?
NOTSOGRN Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,075 Points:1,534,895 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 11:02:01 PM Ignore NOTSOGRN Report Abuse . . Kinda like a Hugo thing...
Sneakers55 Champion Author Houston Posts:51,836 Points:2,168,400 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 10:43:45 PM Ignore Sneakers55 Report Abuse On Oct 20, 2012 11:08:14 PM, RAE344 wrote: >This would devastate the chances of the president >winning California in his re-election bid. It's not going to be an issue, the possibility is out there but it will probably be years before anything happens. >I would not be surprised if he borrowed some more >money from our future generation and federalized >those refineries. I would be very surprised if Obama nationalized anything relating to the oil industry. He has enough of a mess with Government Motors and the Post Office already.
Ahking Champion Author Orange County Posts:3,599 Points:621,360 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 10:40:10 PM Ignore Ahking Report Abuse talks.
Melinda205 Champion Author Alabama Posts:1,972 Points:385,540 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 10:29:46 PM Ignore Melinda205 Report Abuse Okay
Number43 Champion Author Lexington Posts:8,844 Points:1,664,895 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 9:25:33 PM Ignore Number43 Report Abuse More regulation will mean higher cost to drivers no matter who owns them.
Number43 Champion Author Lexington Posts:8,844 Points:1,664,895 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 9:24:26 PM Ignore Number43 Report Abuse Gas prices will go higher in Ca.( and stay high).
hotrod_brother Champion Author Tampa Posts:12,606 Points:2,232,195 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 9:16:33 PM Ignore hotrod_brother Report Abuse Californication !!!
boatfloyd Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:1,853 Points:414,700 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 9:16:17 PM Ignore boatfloyd Report Abuse Far Out.
judgemobile Champion Author Ohio Posts:7,700 Points:2,471,660 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 9:10:24 PM Ignore judgemobile Report Abuse if oil industry were looking better in the future, why would thy sell ?
rxman1 Champion Author Toledo Posts:9,684 Points:1,888,520 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 9:09:00 PM Ignore rxman1 Report Abuse What? What? More regulations! Is this acway of creating more jobs.?
snky2k Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:1,523 Points:329,840 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 9:08:49 PM Ignore snky2k Report Abuse Be careful, California lawmakers.
PrinceLH Champion Author Ontario Posts:2,827 Points:564,770 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 9:08:19 PM Ignore PrinceLH Report Abuse Get it done!
RAE344 Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:3,207 Points:688,245 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 9:08:14 PM Ignore RAE344 Report Abuse This would devastate the chances of the president winning California in his re-election bid. I would not be surprised if he borrowed some more money from our future generation and federalized those refineries.
1fulltank Champion Author Buffalo Posts:8,036 Points:1,570,995 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 9:08:09 PM Ignore 1fulltank Report Abuse I'm a little short this week.
Blue_Cruzer Champion Author Lexington Posts:7,655 Points:1,696,310 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 9:07:16 PM Ignore Blue_Cruzer Report Abuse I wonder if Valero is looking for serious?
PrinceLH Champion Author Ontario Posts:2,827 Points:564,770 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 9:06:16 PM Ignore PrinceLH Report Abuse I hope it spurs more refineries to be built.
vibdata Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:4,181 Points:866,235 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 9:06:05 PM Ignore vibdata Report Abuse So you are saying, that with all the increased regulations and improvements over the past 20 years, that the emissions in 2020 must match those of long ago? I do not understand this at all. I thought there were IMRPOVEMENTS year to year all the time? How can the emissions in 2020 match those of 1990 unless they get much WORSE? This is ridiculous.
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