honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 2:41:22 AM
someone please explain why in the US diesel engines are notoriously $7,500+ more than a gas engine? No real reason for it other than money making scheme.
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tdimotor

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Montreal
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 2:42:17 AM
BMW starting to build petrol engines and very similar diesel engines of up to 200 hp, the petrol version has 56 m/g fuel economy and diesel even better, with higher torque. any diesel offering on the market gives the consumers more choises.
[Edited by: tdimotor at 11/13/2012 5:43:10 AM EST]
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prcoqui

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2012 3:22:11 PM
oNLY TIME WILL TELL.
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MAC48

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2012 1:18:48 PM
It will be interesting to see how this effects the SUV market. If Jeep is successful in this offering, you can bet GM, Dodge and Ford will follow suit in their lines of SUVs and 1/2 ton pickups.
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bluetruck54

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Quad Cities
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2012 9:58:40 AM
obviously, many questions, however the first one is: are you willing to pay $.80 per gallon more than gas to drive this thing? it's your money,
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SkooterG

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2012 9:16:50 AM
We need more diesels in this country! Good for Jeep. Seems to be a good fit.
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tdimotor

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Montreal
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2012 3:47:27 AM
/2012/09/14/bmw-unveils-new-3-cylinder-1-5-liter-diesel-and-petrol-engines/ 3.76 liters per 100 km consumption. 6 cylinder 250 Hp engine fuel consuption is 4,5 litera per 100 km ! see a car manufacture produce and make available to general public an engine that is fitting of the 21st generation i.e. 1500cc & 221hp/240nm. The only disappointing thing regarding this is BMW already have a production engine that can produce 190hp/112nm from ~999cc. So like always car manufactures will always hold back and essentially dip feed this tech to us. PS: Formula 1 and 1600cc Turbo will show the way in 2014/15 i.e. Jaguar 1600cc 500hp a la C-X75 is the real world example. People fret at the thought of losing the noise of a NA V8; wait till you feel the thrust & agility of a 1400cc@350hp in a 700kg frame. People must realise this tech is available among car manufactures today however they choose to release it tomorrow. MONEY!!!
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7SPEEDY7

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Flint
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2012 3:17:03 AM
sounds good
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JBL2

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Little Rock
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 11:40:41 PM
Diesels are a good way to go
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rats3

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 11:40:06 PM
On this side of the border diesel is generally a little less expensive than regular unleaded. 300K on my VW TDI and counting. I would love to have some alternatives to the German car manufacturers for Diesel. VW (Toureg), Mercedes, BMW, Porsche, etc all want far too much for their diesels. I believe this Jeep will do well in Canada.
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madison8359

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 11:35:04 PM
Diesels are clean, quiet, and reliable. They are not your fathers diesel.
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skysteve1

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Victoria
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 11:30:21 PM
i think they have had diesels in Europe for years in jeeps
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jcurley

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California
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 11:28:17 PM
Remember the Mitt Romney lie about Chrysler moving jeep production to China? Why anyone voted for a snake oil salesman like Mittens is beyond me.
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Matt G

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Boston
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 11:23:22 PM
Rounds good to me
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Retowered

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Colorado
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 11:21:16 PM
Diesel cost to much.
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pulpwood

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Mississippi
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 11:17:08 PM
bring it
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Bruno44

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Texas
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 11:15:19 PM
"Few" is right.
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9C1

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 11:12:50 PM
Diesel fuel costs too much
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nurdco

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Colorado Springs
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 11:11:06 PM
Chryser always sold a Diesel version of Jeep in the Midwest....
No surprise...
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HA4CNN

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 11:11:04 PM
European Diesels are much cleaner and it is about time North America got a chance to buy them.
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easyfreeHDTV

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 11:09:42 PM
A 3.0 diesel in the Jeep would make plenty of power.
For reference, check out the Mercedes Benz GL which comes in a diesel and 2 gas models:
GL 350 with 3.0 V6 (Diesel) makes 455 lb-ft of torque, 26 mpg highway GL 450 with 4.6 V8 (Gasoline) makes 416 lb-ft of torque, 19 mpg highway
The diesel will run nearly forever, makes more torque, and gets nearly 37% more miles per gallon.
Diesel fuel is currently only ~ 11% more per gallon than regular unleaded.
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TheeRedRam

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Hartford
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 11:08:52 PM
yeh Jeep get ur done
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hubcapLA

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Louisiana
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 10:58:35 PM
yes
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WE0H

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 10:57:24 PM
I don't get the desire to grab a hold of that greasy dirty diesel pump handle every time you need to fill up. All diesel pumps also have fuel spilled all over the ground. Who wants to step in that goop and then wipe it on your fancy floor mats. That smell is near impossible to get off your shoes let alone out of a carpeted floor mat. Go take a sniff around a big truck and you'll know what your new Jeep is going to smell like forever.
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jorod55

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California
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 10:57:22 PM
Its going to have to be a lot better than what is available now to be economically suitable.
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badharley

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 10:55:09 PM
Wont buy a jeep.
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gasmack

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Ventura
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 10:54:03 PM
Have no use for diesels nor SUVs.
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myambro

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Sacramento
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 10:53:56 PM
Yay! Minivan?
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wshutton

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 10:52:24 PM
If the transmission is properly geared for a diesel engine and the diesel engine gets significantly better fuel mileage than gas engines, yes!
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doronx2

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Arizona
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 10:48:02 PM
Drove a diesel jeep as a company vehicle seemed to have plenty of power, just didn't like the design (kept tripping getting in and out). The price of diesel would be a factor.
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btex49

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Austin
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 10:44:26 PM
Interesting.
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obimerrill

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 10:41:22 PM
Too much of a premium on diesel
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RENEGADEGAS

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 10:37:50 PM
Doubtful with the economy tanked and sinking deeper.
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geoutpb

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Midland Odessa
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 10:35:37 PM
Diesel one very good engine. Have diesel jetta 48 highway 35 city.
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wildddkattt80

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 10:28:48 PM
Ok
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PetroScopper

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Houston
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 10:26:06 PM
I think Chrysler will do it even if it is only a limited production at first. They will gauge their customers thoughts and feelings on the idea, then go from there.
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kgbellman

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Ann Arbor
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 10:22:42 PM
I'm not sure I see it, but then again, I'm not their market. I guess we'll have to see.
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PithyOpiner

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Stockton
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 10:21:33 PM
I'm so thrilled that diesel users who want a Jeep will be able to get one that runs on diesel. Just thrilled to death. Myself, I wouldn't be caught dead in a diesel vehicle.
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smqua

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 10:20:11 PM
Probably not
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rawdog1313

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 10:16:33 PM
Depends on quality and price.
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kd5kpd

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Texas
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 10:15:27 PM
NO.!!
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Amtrgas

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Oakland
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 10:11:12 PM
The vehicles that are available in Europe, would do well here.
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LilRedWagonIN

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 10:10:15 PM
No. Same answer when reported previously on GasBuddy.
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ysmc

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Providence
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 10:07:29 PM
too expensive here and it competes with home heating oil
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DirtDauber

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 10:06:33 PM
Yes.
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danol43

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Modesto
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 10:02:32 PM
Prefer diesel myself.
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Z51Corvette

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Austin
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 9:59:53 PM
Hahaha
Is this some kind of joke... 3.0 liter... Try a real diesel... get a Cummins!
[Edited by: Z51Corvette at 11/12/2012 1:01:16 AM EST]
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Z51Corvette

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Austin
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 9:59:31 PM
southrob.... you should take a spelling class...
No! that is silly!
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forteras

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 9:58:29 PM
Jeezil!
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southrob

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Tucson
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 9:56:13 PM
dhan
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